adonex Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 So there are a lot of "fog chiller" videos on YouTube. If you are not sure what I am talking about, it is the videos with people using ice to make normal fog fluid hug the ground and look more like a dry ice and hot water effect. My question is as follows: Is there a superior design that creates an effect similar to conventional dry ice and hot water? A lot of people seem to be using ducting surrounded by ice, surely it would work better if the fog was in direct contact with the ice? I also heard that using "quick dispersion" fluid in a fogger could dissipate the fog quickly enough as it warms so to stop the clouds of smoke rising and being as obvious? Do these things work on small-ish scale? Is it a faff or on small scale is it more practical than dry ice due to usage times and cost etc? Just wondering what everyone thinks of these things? Cheers, Euan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivemaster Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Part of what makes designs "good" is the clear up. You need to be very sure that the ice you start with will fit into a container as water after it is used without running down the stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I've got one of those Antari ice cube machines, but to be honest, it's a bit unreliable and unpredictable - we gave up using the ice cubes, even though we have copious amounts of ice - mainly because we're lazy and kept forgetting to empty it and then somebody would move it and water would be everywhere. When it was full of ice, it did work pretty well - because the smoke output is not bad at all - just that sometimes pressing the button would mean instant flow, other times, it would maybe take 30 seconds or so to fire up - no idea why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivemaster Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Economy smokers heat and cool with a simple thermostat, They only make smoke on the cooling part of the cycle. If it's heating when you push the button nothing happens, if it's cooling then smoke comes out. More sophisticated machines control the heat and fluid better and make smoke almost instantly when triggered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Pearce Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 As a tip, you can get reusable ice cubes that are like mini ice packs, these freeze colder than ice, stay cool longer, and have zero cleanup.I tour one of the antari machines with a band, and with good thick fluid and the hopper full of reusable ice we can keep the low fog going for about 45 mins in a hot music venue. Beyond that really wants a fresh batch of ice. Bragging freezer space is one of the first jobs upon arrival at a venue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanhill Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 The only combination that I have found that works in the most similar way to classic dry-ice is the FreezeFog Pro units from Le Maitre. They do need cannisters of CO2 to chill the smoke down, but the effect with quick dispersing smoke fluid is very close to dry-ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LXbydesign Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Glaciators are the 'all-in-a-box' easy choice, but I find the smoke rises quite quickly. It all depends on the heat/air of the room and the floor. For ice shows - they're brilliant!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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