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Could anybody recommend a supplier for the clamps (unsure of their official name) that allow you to fly lightweight kit on the metal partition track way you find in hotels?

 

Also does anybody have an idea if these tracks are rated to support a certain weight.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

Zebedees? Like these? and then a normal hook clamp or coupler underneath?

 

Yes, if its the uni-strut type tracks I think its usually 250kg, but ask the venue

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Thats ideal thanks for the response.

Could anybody recommend a supplier for the clamps (unsure of their official name) that allow you to fly lightweight kit on the metal partition track way you find in hotels?

 

Also does anybody have an idea if these tracks are rated to support a certain weight.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

Zebedees? Like these? and then a normal hook clamp or coupler underneath?

 

Yes, if its the uni-strut type tracks I think its usually 250kg, but ask the venue

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Could anybody recommend a supplier for the clamps (unsure of their official name) that allow you to fly lightweight kit on the metal partition track way you find in hotels?

 

Also does anybody have an idea if these tracks are rated to support a certain weight.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

Zebedees? Like these? and then a normal hook clamp or coupler underneath?

 

Yes, if its the uni-strut type tracks I think its usually 250kg, but ask the venue

 

If you are using zebedees in Unistrut, I would advise a plate washer on the underside of the channel to secure the whole arrangement.

 

I wouldn't buy zebedees from that link, way overpriced.

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If you are using zebedees in Unistrut, I would advise a plate washer on the underside of the channel to secure the whole arrangement.

 

I wouldn't buy zebedees from that link, way overpriced.

 

 

Totally agree with the underside washer, also I wasn't suggesting that link as a purchase point, more as an example of what was wanted

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I often want to use the track to hang some light from but did not know there was nuts for it to buy. I was going to make some myself from some steel and tap it. I would have made some in 3 different sizes 6mm, 8mm and 10mm as it would be handy for differn things as well as hinging lights.

 

Thank you to all who posted the info here. very usefull info

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I have never seen Unistrut type channel used for hotel partitions. What we have here in the US is called "airwall track" that supports movable partition walls in hotel ballrooms. I have not heard of it having a "rated" load, but the partitions that hang from it weigh upwards of 500 pounds and hang from 2 roller trucks in a channel above the ceiling. That track is often used to support loads (if the hotel permits) and there are commercial products available to do so. Here is a LINK to one.

 

Mac

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Always check with the venue though...

 

Damaged airwall track is ruddy expensive to fix - and whilst the panels are quite heavy, the tracks are designed for a vertical load. I have seen off axis loads bend airwall track so that the partitions no longer travel smoothly along it. I have also seen damaged airwall track lead to the partitions becoming derailed and almost squashing the banquet staff member moving it - I cannot confirm whether this was due to loads being rigged from it, or poor treatment from the guys who use the track day in, day out moving the walls..

 

Many venues flat out refuse to allow things to be rigged from it.

 

Have a look at this doovalacky - it's a pretty nifty adjustable clamp designed for airwall.

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Have a look at this doovalacky - it's a pretty nifty adjustable clamp designed for airwall.

 

The nice thing about that clamp is that it spreads the load over a longer distance, so there's less chance of an awkward point load damaging the track.

 

We tend to use an assembly of plate washers and captive nuts which works fine for limited loads. I'd always hang a bar spanning two points and then clamp the load to that, rather than hang items directly - this reduces the chance of an angular pull causing distortion.

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Always check with the venue though...

 

Damaged airwall track is ruddy expensive to fix - and whilst the panels are quite heavy, the tracks are designed for a vertical load. I have seen off axis loads bend airwall track so that the partitions no longer travel smoothly along it. I have also seen damaged airwall track lead to the partitions becoming derailed and almost squashing the banquet staff member moving it - I cannot confirm whether this was due to loads being rigged from it, or poor treatment from the guys who use the track day in, day out moving the walls..

 

Many venues flat out refuse to allow things to be rigged from it.

 

Have a look at this doovalacky - it's a pretty nifty adjustable clamp designed for airwall.

 

That's a link to the smaller version of the 7" one I linked to above. It is true that some hotels flat out refuse to allow the use of airwall track to support other loads, in the US, Marriott is a large chain that does not allow airwall rigging. I suspect that the damage they are afraid of was caused by using home made adapters that put the load on a very small area of the track. The trucks that support the wall sections support the load over 2 points separated by about 4'. The Mega style hangers will be much less damaging to the track than a piece of threaded rod with nuts and washers, but I'm sure it is still possible to cause expensive damage with them. Maintaining vertical loads only, within the SWL of the hardware (750lbs) should minimize, if not eliminate, the danger of damaging the track.

 

Mac

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