TomHoward Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Sorry to mods if this is in the wrong section - please move. Was just wondering about people's ladder choices - we need a ladder (for short jobs, in addition to other more suitable access methods) for a hall with 6m at edges and 9m at peak. We're looking at a freestanding combination ladder (three section, either freestanding or triple extension.) We've got a Zarges 41231 in our main room, and we could get another of those, but you can get others under half the price of a Zarges with the same EN131 rating - for example Abru 66314. Obviously ladders aren't really something you want to be skimping on, but is there anything wrong with the Abru ladders, or are there any other manufacturers cheaper than Zarges that make those sized ladders? Youngman and a couple of others I've spoke to don't make anything that big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutley Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 When I was working at a local High School, we ordered the largest 3 section combination ladders we could get, and www.laddersdirect.co.uk seemed to be the cheapest supplier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Lewis Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 From memory, the Zarges Industrial 3 part Skymaster is quite a bit cheaper than their Trade version that you linked to. We have the older trade version with the splayed stiles rather than the straight stiles with stabiliser bar. We have had the aluminium guides at the top broken several times. Our Students Union has the cheaper version - theirs seems just as good, and hasn't been broken as far as I know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.cam108 Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Watch out for Youngman combination ladders. We bought a set (3m) for the church and they are just too cheap. The locking bit at the top can easily puncture the rung if you are not careful and the stabiliser bar doesn't fix tightly enough, making the whole ladder a bit wobbly. The stay bar is also a rubbish design, requiring screwing to get it to lock. Colin C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomHoward Posted October 6, 2011 Author Share Posted October 6, 2011 Thanks Simon, it seems to be though that the Trade are the cheaper range than the Industrial - the Industrial are a higher rating, being BS Class 1 as opposed to the EN class (equivalent to about Class 2). Although the Industrial one would theoretically be safer, we've got Commercial grade mostly. This ladder won't really get much use at all - probably out less than once a month - but it's to stop us having to drag our Zarges around. When I was working at a local High School, we ordered the largest 3 section combination ladders we could get, and www.laddersdirect.co.uk seemed to be the cheapest supplier.That's where I found the Abru combination ladders from, and they're significantly cheaper than the Zarges - did you find the cheapest ladders from laddersdirect to be okay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madorangepanda Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Having spent the last few weeks repairing and sorting several hundred ladders. Get the Zarges Skymaster. The alternative combination ladders are cheaper for a reason. Most of the things that break on them can't be repaired/replaced and they are more likely to break. Whereas the Zarges are tough and easy to repair should something break. There are Zarges still in use that are older than me. The Trade version is cheaper than the Industrial version and from what it sounds like the Trade version would suit you. The EN131 rating is an odd one, things that would previously Fall under BS 2037 Class 3 i.e. Domestic ladders can be EN131, as can Class 1 Industrial and Class 2 Trade ladders. So consider EN131 a minimum requirement rather than a high standard. We can give you a better price on a Skymaster than www.laddersdirect.co.uk or anyone else, give us a call on 020 8684 6999 or email us at scaff@btconnect.com if you're interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Lewis Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 it seems to be though that the Trade are the cheaper range than the Industrial I got it the wrong way round then! I knew that I had a long chat over whether paying almost twice as much for the higher cost version was worth it for a relatively infrequently used piece of access gear. I'll check the prce list next time ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirdtap Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 'lo, just looking at ladders at the moment and a quick search found this topic... What are the differences between trade & industrial Zarges?For my part they would be part of a rental package and would be shipped to site regularly, which may involve extra wear and tear Anyone had any experience of the Zarges Teletower? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 What are the differences between trade & industrial Zarges?The difference is to which Standard they are designed. I used to have a link to a good webpage which explained things but bu****ed if I can find it now. What are the differences between trade & industrial Zarges?The difference is to which Standard they are designed. I used to have a link to a good webpage which explained things but bu****ed if I can find it now. [E2A]Basic explanation here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madorangepanda Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Not quite right. The Industrial is designed to a higher German standard, not BS2037 Class 1. The Industrial has the following differences. Two side bars, useful if moving it around a lot whilst used free standing. A wall wheel, useful if you need it as an extension ladder a lot. The stabiliser bar is 10cm wider giving it extra stability, you can also get an extra stabiliser bar that fits on the middle section. Which can be pretty useful. The plastic caps are black instead of blue. The rungs have a slightly different tread pattern, absolutely no idea why as when getting spare sections for a trade ladder from Zarges (UK) you generally end up with industrial sections with the caps swapped to blue ones. As for the Teletower. We've started selling a few, but in terms of a rental product I wouldn't recommend it. They are good little products and are great for tradesmen carrying them about in their van. For hire though they would probably get destroyed pretty quickly, and at present only the manufacturer can carry out repairs. For something tougher have a look at podium steps, much stronger. They are bigger but weigh less and can be repaired by many different companies. Oh and they cost a LOT less. What exactly do you need it for? There are several products on the market that could suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirdtap Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 'lo, thank you for your replies most useful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mandydavies10 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 These guys might have something along the lines, which you are looking for -http://www.titanladders.co.uk/ - I know they sell trade and domestic ladders, so hopefully they will have something. Hope this helps http://www.blue-room.org.uk/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkPAman Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 This thread's getting on for 5 years old....... I expect he's got something by now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomHoward Posted June 9, 2016 Author Share Posted June 9, 2016 Tom (madorangepanda) gave us a great price on a 2nd set of matching Zarges so now we have two of them, one in each venue - saves us carrying between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Some Bloke Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 As the matter is fully solved, I'll close this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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